In this podcast episode summary, we’re diving into a crucial topic for modern workplaces: Neurodiversity. Drawing on insights from the Harmonious Workplaces podcast, Episode 64, featuring Mary Pat Kochenash, founder of “Flip the Switch,” we’ll explore how understanding the neuroscience of being human can transform how we support neurodivergent colleagues, moving beyond simple HR checkboxes to create environments where everyone can thrive.
What is Neurodiversity?
The term Neurodiverse applies to everyone because we all possess our own unique nervous system. Neurodivergent, on the other hand, refers to individuals whose neurotype diverges from what is considered typical. This includes people with conditions such as ADHD, Autism, learning disabilities, head injuries, and bipolar disorder. It’s important to note that individuals may be diagnosed or undiagnosed, and many people in the workforce fall into the latter category.
Mary Pat Kochenash, an occupational therapist, emphasizes that her work stems from understanding the neuroscience of human beings. A core principle is that all behavior originates from the nervous system, from neurology.
Safety, Connection, and Threat: The Body’s Automatic Response
Our bodies are wired for survival, and according to Polyvagal Theory, proposed by Dr. Stephen Porges, our nervous system primarily navigates between two fundamental states: safety/connection and threat/protection. When we feel neurologically safe, we can connect and flourish, which is our biological imperative. However, when our system detects a threat, it instinctively shifts into protection mode.
This protection mode can manifest in four survival states:
- Fight: This can present as aggression, verbal aggression, or agitation within the workplace.
- Flight: This can manifest as avoidance, withdrawal, or a reluctance to engage.
- Freeze: This is a state of shutdown when the system feels overwhelmed and unable to cope.
- Fawn: This involves engaging in people-pleasing behavior driven by anxiety, which can ultimately lead to burnout as the nervous system remains dysregulated.
The body automatically determines which state to enter based on its individual history, the specific circumstances, and the perceived threat level, often occurring unconsciously. Understanding these states is crucial because even neurotypical individuals can experience these shifts based on their prior experiences, current stress levels, or perception of a given situation. For instance, a manager receiving critical feedback or an employee arriving at work after a stressful morning at home might be operating from a compromised state of safety.
Felt Safety: The Foundation of Well-being
A key concept highlighted is the critical distinction between felt safety and psychological safety. Felt safety represents a deeper, more primal assessment conducted by the nervous system before the thinking brain even registers a potential threat. It’s rooted in how the body processes information from eight senses, not just the five we typically acknowledge.
Beyond sight, hearing, smell, taste, and touch, we possess three “hidden” senses:
- Proprioception: Sensors located in our muscles and joints constantly relay information to the brain about our body’s position and movement in space.
- Vestibular System: Situated in the inner ear, this system provides our sense of balance and spatial orientation in relation to gravity.
- Interoception: This is our inner body sense, providing us with information about our internal physiological states, such as hunger, thirst, fatigue, or illness.
The brain continuously processes all this sensory input, often below our conscious awareness, to determine if we are neurologically safe. This assessment is profoundly individual and subjective, shaped by a person’s unique nervous system, accumulated memories, and past experiences. If felt safety is compromised, the thinking brain can become partially offline, which explains why clear thinking becomes difficult when we are stressed or engaged in conflict. Felt safety serves as the fundamental, underlying component of psychological safety.
Neurodivergence is “Different Wiring,” Not a Deficit
When discussing neurodiversity in the workplace, it is vital to reframe our perspective. Neurodivergent traits are not deficits or flaws that need to be corrected; they represent different neurological wiring. As Mary Pat Kochenash aptly states, “We don’t need to ‘fix’ people—we need to fix environments.”
Understanding the nuances of the nervous systems of different neurotypes is paramount. For instance:
- ADHD: Individuals with ADHD often have nervous systems wired to be intensely interest-based. They can exhibit remarkable hyperfocus on tasks that are perceived as urgent, novel, or deeply engaging. Conversely, sustaining focus on repetitive or less stimulating tasks requires significantly more cognitive effort and can contribute to burnout. This is a fundamental neurological characteristic, not a reflection of a lack of willpower or discipline.
- Autism: Autistic individuals may experience certain sensory environments as overwhelming or distressing. They might engage in stimming behaviors (self-stimulatory behaviors like hand flapping or rocking) as a means of self-regulation. Attempting to suppress these behaviors to conform to neurotypical expectations can be emotionally and mentally exhausting, increasing the risk of burnout and mental health challenges. Many autistic individuals also possess special interests that can lead to intense periods of hyperfocus and deep expertise, potentially representing significant strengths within the appropriate context. The preference for identity-first language (“autistic person”) is growing within the community, emphasizing autism as an integral part of one’s identity, but it is always best practice to respectfully ask an individual for their preferred terminology.
Creating a Better Workplace Environment
How can managers and leaders leverage this understanding to effectively support diverse learners and maximize the contributions of every team member?
- Move Beyond Compliance: Transition from a reactive, checklist-driven approach focused solely on accommodations to a more proactive and fundamental understanding of underlying nervous system needs.
- Understand the Neuroscience: Recognize that behavior is often rooted in neurological states, not simply conscious choices, and that everyone’s nervous system state is dynamic and subject to fluctuation.
- Know Thyself: Managers should cultivate self-awareness regarding their own nervous system responses and how their reactions and emotional states can impact the team dynamic, remembering that “your vibe is my vibe.”
- Include Neurodivergent Voices: The most authentic and effective understanding of neurodiversity in practice comes from actively including neurodivergent individuals in discussions and decision-making processes related to workplace design, policies, and practices.
- Accommodate Sensory and Movement Needs: Be flexible in allowing employees to move around, take breaks, or engage in self-regulating behaviors as needed. Be mindful of the sensory environment (lighting, sound levels, textures) and strive to accommodate individual preferences where feasible. Recognize that the need for quiet time or breaks from social interaction is a valid neurological need, not a sign of disengagement.
- Be Curious, Not Judgmental: Approach behavioral differences with genuine curiosity (“What might be underlying this person’s behavior?”) rather than immediate judgment. This fosters compassion, reduces stigma, and helps break the shame cycles that neurodivergent individuals may have experienced throughout their lives. Directly ask employees what kind of work environment and support systems enable them to perform at their best.
- Prioritize Felt Safety: Actively focus on cultivating an environment where individuals feel neurologically safe, as this foundational sense of safety underpins psychological safety and enables the nervous system to support higher-level cognitive functions such as creativity, problem-solving, and collaboration.
- Rethink Resilience and Self-Regulation: Understand that resilience and self-regulation are not solely personal character traits but are also neurological states that can be nurtured and supported. This involves helping individuals develop the neural pathways necessary to feel safe and grounded within the work environment. Resilience serves as a crucial antidote to burnout, particularly for neurodivergent populations who may experience higher levels of sensory and cognitive load. Furthermore, genuine creativity flourishes when the nervous system feels secure enough to take risks, explore novel ideas, and embrace uncertainty.
- Implement Simple Strategies: Educate employees and managers on simple yet effective techniques, such as pausing and taking a conscious breath, to interrupt cycles of nervous system dysregulation and promote a return to a state of greater calm and regulation.
Creating a truly harmonious workplace necessitates recognizing and thoughtfully supporting the diverse nervous systems of all employees. While resources and training for managers in this area are continually developing, the essential starting point is cultivating awareness, fostering genuine curiosity, and maintaining an unwavering commitment to creating an environment of felt safety for everyone.
Learn More:
Mary Pat’s website: https://www.fliptheswitchot.com/
Harmonious Health Check: https://harmoniousworkplaces.com/harmonious-health-check/
Hermie the HR Hermit Crab: https://harmoniousworkplaces.com/hermie-the-hr-hermit-crab/

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